Someone actually said to me recently, “I don’t know why the Jews get to claim the word ‘genocide’.” Umm duh… because a Jew coined it in the aftermath of the holocaust? Clearly it was a problem that we are controlling how the word is used so that it can’t legitimately be used in any way anyone wants. We’re so greedy! As if controlling the banks and the weather wasn’t enough!
LOL!!!! If only we could control how the word is used--then there would be no need for articles like this one venting my frustrations with how the goyim do so!
Well, if only we could also control the weather and the banks too! I wouldn’t be sitting at my desk with spreadsheets and a prayer as I calculate paying off my roof replacement, and my roof probably would have lasted a few more years if I could turn off the rain when I wanted.
If only it was true what they say about us… sigh 😮💨
Armenian genocide as state-sponsored wholesale murder of a specific group is completely suppressed by the Pal propaganda machine.
It’s not a coincidence that almost every current and recent state-level supporter of manufactured Pal agenda has or had their own genocide project in works. In Turkey, talking about their treatment of Armenians, Assyrians and later Kurds can get you jailed or killed. Saddam, Assad, Putin and Xi are or were “doing it” on a huge scale to complete or partial erasure of victim stories by organized propagandists.
None of this is coincidental: the entire narrative was written in USSR after humiliations of Arab losses in 60s-70s
"In The New York Times, for example, articles pairing Israel and genocide reached levels more than nine times higher than the peak for Rwanda and nearly six times greater than for Darfur. Similarly, in The Guardian, over 1% of all articles now reference both Israel and genocide—a frequency unmatched by any other pairing in recent decades."
Your absolutely right, Jill! The term “genocide” gets thrown around WAY too much and the term is used too lightly. First off, land acknowledgments are stupid, weird and performative. They also do nothing to help Native Americans alive today who face many very real and pressing issues. Racism, discrimination, police brutality, lack of funding for Indian charter schools, treaties not being honored, murdered and missing Native women and children, high illegitimacy rates, and alcoholism, poverty and crime on the reservation. Furthermore, there was no Native American genocide. There was no plan by the U.S. government to exterminate all the Indigenous peoples. They wanted to take their land, put them on reservations and assimilate them to white society. But there was no grand master plan by the U.S. government to wipe all the Indians out as there was for the Jews by the Nazis.
Also, if there was an Indian genocide attempted by the government, it didn’t work very well given that there are 500+ registered Native American tribes and there are more of them alive today than ever before. Second, this is NOT a stolen country! There were individual cases where white settlers did indeed steal land from Native peoples using chicanery or trickery and that was wrong to be sure. But most of the land in this country was conquered or purchased from the Native tribes in peaceful commerce. Conquest is a part of human history. The right of conquest was universally recognized by all nations until its formal reputation in 1949. The way it worked through most of human history was, if you had the military strength to take and hold a piece of land you got to keep it. If every country that did this did land acknowledgments to each other, everyone on Earth would be doing land acknowledgments to everyone else. Including one Native American tribe to another.
Also, the Jewish people were real victims of genocide one of the worst in history-the Shoah. You are trivializing that word and disrespecting those who died in the Holocaust when you throw it around haphazardly. There are genocides going on right now like the one in Sudan that’s been going on for 20 years being waged by Arabs against black ethnic groups in South Sudan. Casually bringing up genocide to make yourself sound virtuous, is just disgusting and makes you a bad person. These university professors need to educate themselves on what real genocide looks like. I’m happy to provide them with a reading list:
• The Holocaust: A New History by Laurence Rees
• “They Can Live in the Dessert But Nowhere Else”: A History of the Armenian Genocide by Ronald Grigor Suny
• Shake Hands with the Devil: The Failure of Humanity in Rwanda by Romeo Dallaire
• The Killing Season: A History of the Indonesian Massacres, 1965-66 by Geoffrey B. Robinson
• The Blood Telegram: Nixon, Kissinger, and a Forgotten Genocide by Gary Bass
• The Rape of Nanking: The Forgotten Holocaust of World War II by Iris Chang
• The Holocaust of the Pontian Greeks: Still an Open Wound by Theodora Ionnidou
Thank you for articulating so clearly something I have also felt for a long while. I find it also especially triggering when people throw it into discussion of Israel and Gaza (or just mention it as part of something unrelated) because it completely throws me off track. Whatever the question or discussion is, I feel like I need to ask the person to take a step back so I can point out that I don't agree with the use of the term in that context. Or I feel like whoever the person is just will never be someone I can have a conversation with, which is sad. It feels confrontational and idealogical right from the start. You might be interested in this article, which I found illuminating: https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/interview-alice-wairimu-nderitu-and-the-high-price-of-honesty/ Also, I can't stand land acknowledgments (there is one time I saw one used in a presentation in a way that made sense and was relevant to the topic). They feel performative and I have read that Native Americans are mixed on them as well. It all just feels like massive white guilt and savior complex to me.
So I am in academic pediatrics at a big Midwest children’s hospital. We heard some land acknowledgments during 2020 and 2021 but these have disappeared. So sad that they are still around.
For the most part, absolutely right. But I take umbrage with Homo sapiens monopoly on genocide : other social animals are known of behavior that definitely cuts very close to it :
Chimpanzee war-like raids have been extensively documented, most famously by Jane Goodall in Gombe National Park.
Some ant species (e.g. Solenopsis, Formica) engage in raiding behavior where entire colonies are destroyed.
Meerkats and Mongooses in groups may exterminate rival groups’ pups, sometimes even eradicate other groups entirely during conflict.
Elephants, dolphins, wolves, and some monkey species also show intragroup lethal violence though less common and organized.
You’ve got it completely back to front. It’s not that we used to have a clear definition of genocide meaning extermination and then “casual” use of the word diluted that meaning. It’s the other way round. The popular use of the word does indeed mean extermination. But we now have a legal definition embodied in the genocide convention and that defines genocide in various ways that amount to less than extermination. Israel’s actions in Gaza probably do amount of genocide under the definition of the genocide convention. They do not currently amount to genocide under the popular definition (although some in Israel have expressed support for a policy of extermination).
I feel the same way. Hearing the word used on a daily basis about Gaza when their birth rate is higher than their death rate is infuriating.
Someone actually said to me recently, “I don’t know why the Jews get to claim the word ‘genocide’.” Umm duh… because a Jew coined it in the aftermath of the holocaust? Clearly it was a problem that we are controlling how the word is used so that it can’t legitimately be used in any way anyone wants. We’re so greedy! As if controlling the banks and the weather wasn’t enough!
LOL!!!! If only we could control how the word is used--then there would be no need for articles like this one venting my frustrations with how the goyim do so!
Well, if only we could also control the weather and the banks too! I wouldn’t be sitting at my desk with spreadsheets and a prayer as I calculate paying off my roof replacement, and my roof probably would have lasted a few more years if I could turn off the rain when I wanted.
If only it was true what they say about us… sigh 😮💨
Relax. We control the weather with Jewish space lasers. Ask anyone.
I meant to say ask anyone with half a brain.
Armenian genocide as state-sponsored wholesale murder of a specific group is completely suppressed by the Pal propaganda machine.
It’s not a coincidence that almost every current and recent state-level supporter of manufactured Pal agenda has or had their own genocide project in works. In Turkey, talking about their treatment of Armenians, Assyrians and later Kurds can get you jailed or killed. Saddam, Assad, Putin and Xi are or were “doing it” on a huge scale to complete or partial erasure of victim stories by organized propagandists.
None of this is coincidental: the entire narrative was written in USSR after humiliations of Arab losses in 60s-70s
This is really good, in case anyone missed it:
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/media-manufactured-genocide-gaza
"In The New York Times, for example, articles pairing Israel and genocide reached levels more than nine times higher than the peak for Rwanda and nearly six times greater than for Darfur. Similarly, in The Guardian, over 1% of all articles now reference both Israel and genocide—a frequency unmatched by any other pairing in recent decades."
Your absolutely right, Jill! The term “genocide” gets thrown around WAY too much and the term is used too lightly. First off, land acknowledgments are stupid, weird and performative. They also do nothing to help Native Americans alive today who face many very real and pressing issues. Racism, discrimination, police brutality, lack of funding for Indian charter schools, treaties not being honored, murdered and missing Native women and children, high illegitimacy rates, and alcoholism, poverty and crime on the reservation. Furthermore, there was no Native American genocide. There was no plan by the U.S. government to exterminate all the Indigenous peoples. They wanted to take their land, put them on reservations and assimilate them to white society. But there was no grand master plan by the U.S. government to wipe all the Indians out as there was for the Jews by the Nazis.
Also, if there was an Indian genocide attempted by the government, it didn’t work very well given that there are 500+ registered Native American tribes and there are more of them alive today than ever before. Second, this is NOT a stolen country! There were individual cases where white settlers did indeed steal land from Native peoples using chicanery or trickery and that was wrong to be sure. But most of the land in this country was conquered or purchased from the Native tribes in peaceful commerce. Conquest is a part of human history. The right of conquest was universally recognized by all nations until its formal reputation in 1949. The way it worked through most of human history was, if you had the military strength to take and hold a piece of land you got to keep it. If every country that did this did land acknowledgments to each other, everyone on Earth would be doing land acknowledgments to everyone else. Including one Native American tribe to another.
Also, the Jewish people were real victims of genocide one of the worst in history-the Shoah. You are trivializing that word and disrespecting those who died in the Holocaust when you throw it around haphazardly. There are genocides going on right now like the one in Sudan that’s been going on for 20 years being waged by Arabs against black ethnic groups in South Sudan. Casually bringing up genocide to make yourself sound virtuous, is just disgusting and makes you a bad person. These university professors need to educate themselves on what real genocide looks like. I’m happy to provide them with a reading list:
• The Holocaust: A New History by Laurence Rees
• “They Can Live in the Dessert But Nowhere Else”: A History of the Armenian Genocide by Ronald Grigor Suny
• Shake Hands with the Devil: The Failure of Humanity in Rwanda by Romeo Dallaire
• The Killing Season: A History of the Indonesian Massacres, 1965-66 by Geoffrey B. Robinson
• The Blood Telegram: Nixon, Kissinger, and a Forgotten Genocide by Gary Bass
• The Rape of Nanking: The Forgotten Holocaust of World War II by Iris Chang
• The Holocaust of the Pontian Greeks: Still an Open Wound by Theodora Ionnidou
Great post ! I totally agree. Good to see you posting again !
Thank you for articulating so clearly something I have also felt for a long while. I find it also especially triggering when people throw it into discussion of Israel and Gaza (or just mention it as part of something unrelated) because it completely throws me off track. Whatever the question or discussion is, I feel like I need to ask the person to take a step back so I can point out that I don't agree with the use of the term in that context. Or I feel like whoever the person is just will never be someone I can have a conversation with, which is sad. It feels confrontational and idealogical right from the start. You might be interested in this article, which I found illuminating: https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/interview-alice-wairimu-nderitu-and-the-high-price-of-honesty/ Also, I can't stand land acknowledgments (there is one time I saw one used in a presentation in a way that made sense and was relevant to the topic). They feel performative and I have read that Native Americans are mixed on them as well. It all just feels like massive white guilt and savior complex to me.
I actually thought land acknowledgements were finished. What you quoted was an amplified land acknowledgement. Awful
You clearly haven't been to a university campus lately.
So I am in academic pediatrics at a big Midwest children’s hospital. We heard some land acknowledgments during 2020 and 2021 but these have disappeared. So sad that they are still around.
Yes, this!
BS"D
Good article, Jill. And don't throw away away a good opp'Y to make a scene. You might get escorted out, but people remember.
Armed conflict performed by someone you approve of = war
Armed conflict performed by someone you disagree with = genocide
Normalised indeed!
Good one!!
Btw, the attempt (nearly successful) to eliminate the Jews of Europe ( a real genocide) is probably the best documented crime in history!
Almost every group that occupies land took it from some other group somewhere in history. Every one
of us has people who committed genocide and people who were victims of it in our DNA. So I agree with your conclusion.
For the most part, absolutely right. But I take umbrage with Homo sapiens monopoly on genocide : other social animals are known of behavior that definitely cuts very close to it :
Chimpanzee war-like raids have been extensively documented, most famously by Jane Goodall in Gombe National Park.
Some ant species (e.g. Solenopsis, Formica) engage in raiding behavior where entire colonies are destroyed.
Meerkats and Mongooses in groups may exterminate rival groups’ pups, sometimes even eradicate other groups entirely during conflict.
Elephants, dolphins, wolves, and some monkey species also show intragroup lethal violence though less common and organized.
You’ve got it completely back to front. It’s not that we used to have a clear definition of genocide meaning extermination and then “casual” use of the word diluted that meaning. It’s the other way round. The popular use of the word does indeed mean extermination. But we now have a legal definition embodied in the genocide convention and that defines genocide in various ways that amount to less than extermination. Israel’s actions in Gaza probably do amount of genocide under the definition of the genocide convention. They do not currently amount to genocide under the popular definition (although some in Israel have expressed support for a policy of extermination).