For years, and in the last year and a half especially, I have spent a lot of time and energy defending the Jewish homeland against accusations from the severely misinformed.
Hi Jill, I appreciate you have been working hard to stand up for Israel in a left wing crowd and this is a thankless task. Trumps ‘plan’ is really weird … but it does bring up some internal contradictions in the pro Hamas side
1) the propaganda states that the Gazans are truly refugees of the 4th generation from what is now Israel since 1948. They claim the people they murdered on October 7 were ‘settlers’. Gaza is a big refugee camp for these genetic refugees. If so, why can’t they be refugees in a nicer environment? Ismail Haniyeh and his 7 wives lived quite well in Doha until his fateful trip to Tehran.
Is it ‘imperialist’ to move these people out of the refugee camp?
Are they really Gazans or are they genetic refugees?
2) why is the border of Egypt always closed to them? Why won’t Arab countries take the people who would like to leave? Don’t other countries take refugees from a war zone? Why is it ethnic cleansing? Isn’t this a bit hypocritical? If there is no forced exodus then it’s no different than other groups leaving a war zone.
3). Why does the UN through UNWRA perpetuate the generational refugee status at all? (Related but not the same question)
Other things to consider: is it humanitarian to expect Gazans to live in tents for the next 15 years, during rebuilding? After WW2, Czechs refused to live next to ethnic Germans in Sudetenland after all the suffering Germany had caused. Those Germans were resettled in Germany and the land was given to the Czechs. Why should Israel be put in the same situation over and over? At some point the world should say “enough!” The Palestinians have had decades to do right by themselves and their neighbours and have proven intractably violent against Israel (of course not 100% - never is). Let alone that many Gazans are begging to get out and start over, free of Hamas. As far as Trump goes - even a broken clock is correct 2 times per day. I hope Gaza gets rebuilt - not as a Trump resort but as a purpose-built community for all, allowing screened Gazans to return if they wish, governed perhaps by an Abraham Accords Arab country.
I’ve several times disagreed with Jill on Substack, but I think she’s on the mark in some important ways in this thoughtful piece. Let me offer some input as a Gentile who has been involved with relief efforts in Palestine for 30+ years.
Any plan that assumes that the indigenous Palestinians (assuming living on a land for 1500+ uninterrupted years makes a people indigenous) will be ethnically cleansed from their land is an intellectually lazy non-starter. The Arabs aren’t going away. And, of course, the Jews in Israel certainly shouldn’t go away, nor, appropriately, will they.
We too often forget that Hashemite Jordan’s population is already composed of 30% Palestinian refugees. Israel should have no interest in doing anything to destabilize Egypt, which has an ongoing struggle with the extremist Muslim Brotherhood
The only thing that is more intellectually fraudulent is to assume that there have been any prospects for a two state solution since the death of Rabin. That egg has been broken and scrambled. Beyond this, Netanyahu has many times stated that he would never tolerate the creation of a sovereign Palestinian state.
Personally I pray for the Palestinians to somehow have to have the space to create credible representation for themselves, eliminating Hamas and finding something far better than the sclerotic PA to represent them. But it is very difficult for this progress to occur in a high pressure environment where Gaza has been leveled and over 500 West Bank Palestinians have been killed by settlers and the IDF in just the last 3-4 months while new illegal (even by Israeli government standards) West Bank settlements are created every week. Add Trump’s unhinged remarks that seem to imply that Gaza, under U.S. ownership, will assume a status equivalent to Guam and the volatility of the situation is intolerable.
It’s important to recall that Netanyahu, who is accurately described by Jill here, has often called Hamas “my conception” - something he facilitated as a way to undercut the PA. And, of course, Abbas has done a great job of undercutting the PA by himself.
There’s plenty of blame to go around but endless rumination on things that happened 75+ or 30+ years ago is useless. Israel and the Palestinians are where they are and what matters is a way forward where the rights of the members of both tribes are equitably recognized in a situation where two people share one land.
While the Palestinians need to vastly improve their self-governance, it is also incumbent on Israel to find a way to sideline disciples of the terrorist Meir Kahane and worshippers of the mass murderer Baruch Goldstein from political life. I’m specifically talking about people who have held very senior positions in Netanyahu’s cabinet such as Ben-Gvir and Smotrich, who are as guilty of tribal hate as Hamas leadership is, with the difference being that they have the capacity to progress terrorism with gigantic bombs with a 360 meter kill radius rather than with homemade rockets, RPGs, rifles and IEDs.
ALL terrorism is wrong. ALL.
Pray for peace and the safety of all in our Holy Land. I sadly know that I won’t be alive to witness it.
Your assumption is incorrect re indigeneity. French Canadians have been in Canada for 500 years. Does that make them indigenous? Armenians have had a community in Israel for nearly 1800 years yet nobody thinks they’re indigenous to Israel. Indigeneity is determined by ethnogenesis - where a culture is born. “Palestinian” Arab is a variant on Arab culture, which had its ethnogenesis in the Arabian peninsula. Jews are the only remaining people who are indigenous to Israel, besides being the only ”Palestinians” long before Arabs invaded in the 7th century.
I don’t think these Gazans should be forced to leave. But they certainly shouldn’t be prevented from leaving. It’s normal for people to leave war zones. Why no entry to other Arab countries? Why are those doors closed? Does that even make sense? Only because Palestinians are known to destabilize governments. Black September in Jordan years ago.
Also if they consider themselves 4th generation refugees from Ashkelon, does is even matter if they live in Qatar ? Or only because someone wants them to breach the Israeli border again.
I don’t think Donald Trump was ever seriously considering having the United States occupy Gaza. I think this was all a ploy to get Egypt and Jordan to accept Gazan refugees. But nonetheless you are correct Jill that it is highly unlikely this plan would’ve worked. It most likely never would’ve gotten the public or Congressional support needed to make it happen. As I understand it however, Gazan refugees being resettled in Egypt or Jordan would be voluntary. So it wouldn’t be ethnic cleansing. Nonetheless you’re right Jill that the situation at the moment is quite tense. The war for now is over, but Hamas remains in power and 76 innocent people including 2 babies remain held in Gaza captive. The war could restart at anytime. What is the answer for postwar Gaza? What vision do the people of Gaza have for its future? What is to be done about Hamas? These are all crucial questions that need to be answered and fast. Hamas definitely should not be the picture of the postwar governing of Gaza. To me the most realistic and best idea would be an occupation and administration by the Gulf States; Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Bahrain who are friendly with Israel but whom the Gazans would trust as fellow Arabs and Muslims. Israel would feel secure on its Southern border and they could take care of any remnants of Hamas still running around out there. To be sure Benjamin Netanyahu and the current governing coalition in Israel loved what Trump was advocating for. I’m glad Israel will have no part in the governing of Gaza in the future nor will IDF boots be on the ground. 1) That would easily trigger a Third Intifada. 2) I’d be worried that Bibi and his cronies would encourage Jewish settlers resettling Gaza. 3) Israel renounced all claims to Gaza when they pulled out in 2005. There’s no doubt he’s under fire in Israel right now with both the Israeli press and public and rightly so. He has been the worst PM in Israel’s by far and it’s not even close. I’d argue the man is a quasi-dictator. He, Likud and their far-right allies have ignored Israel’s democratic institutions, enacted authoritarian laws, allowed October 7th to happen by not properly reinforcing the Gaza border, and are a barrier to peace in the region between Israel and the Palestinians. I think it is crucial Bibi and his government be voted out of office or pressured by the public into resigning. If Netanyahu stays PM and his messianic and Kahanist government stay in power, Israel will become an authoritarian and theocratic state. Not to mention the blatant racism, Islamophobia and fanaticism of those like Ben-Gvir and Smotrich. With them in charge Israel’s non-Jewish minorities and Palestinians are in grave danger and could lose their rights.
What evidence do you have for him being the worst pm ever? Longevity of time in office and popularity amongst real Israelis as opposed to retarded leftist deep staters is remarkable
Palestine isn't a country, it's a region. The people there claim to be refugees and want to return to Israel. And then there is the state of the land which we have been told is unlivable, an open prison, close to famine and all the other deathly buzzwords. If we to take all the above as true, then relocating the Gazans is the only morally correct course of action.
Maybe, but to where? And how? And on whose dollar? We can pontificate all we want about what's "moral," but nothing can be done with no real action. And if you're going to announce a bombastic "plan" like Trump just did, it must be backed up by real actionable steps.
Ireland seems desirous and a delicious substack was written yesterday about interactions between the two countries involving navies and population transfers that was delicious
20 million Europeans were moved after the war, after the war the rules were removed allowing normal peacemaking processes unfortunately and Trump is addressing that by calling out the Islamic Nations for hanging the phallus by a rope as a tool for 70 years, denying them citizenship within the countries they did go to after being asked to go to those countries by the same Arab entities in 1948 when those same Arab entities announced to the world that they were going to kill all Jews and soak the land with those same Jews blood
That idea sank into me from my earliest years, I'm 59 and saw no room for tolerance of the intolerable and they are the epitome of the intolerable, it baffles me to see mental ministrations and masturbations regarding the implications of if the Arabs have to move when we've only had hourly reminders since the day of our birth where they want us to move.
We all recall when our approach to apartheid South Africa was to say that there were many other black dominated countries in Africa for blacks in South Africa to be driven off to, while there was only one sub-Saharan African country to be “the White state”. I wonder why the U.S. never led the effort to ethnically cleanse South Africa of blacks or, at least, ensure that blacks in South Africa could only live entrapped in Bantustans that they could not leave?
I suppose where South Africa’s white government fell short was by failing to almost completely destroy black townships by dropping massive bombs and launching endless artillery shells at them, all in the interest of eliminating the ANC terrorists residing in those townships.
Then the white apartheid government and the US could have justified ethnically cleansing all blacks from South Africa since their townships were in terrible shape.
Secret Hamas docs reveal torture, execution of gay terrorists — while some male Oct. 7 Israeli victims were raped in captivity
By Caitlin Doornbos
Published Feb. 4, 2025, 4:56 p.m. ET
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Hamas tortured and executed terrorists within its ranks who allegedly had gay sex, shocking documents show — as sources added some male Israeli victims of the Oct. 7 massacre were raped in captivity.
The Iranian proxy terror group had a running list of recruits who were found to have failed Hamas’ “morality checks” by having same-sex relations — and they paid a heavy price, according to documents recovered by the Israel Defense Forces and shared with The Post.
The documents reveal the “crimes” that were allegedly committed by 94 Hamas recruits — lumping “homosexual conversations,” “flirting with girls without a legal relationship” and “sodomy” in with serious allegations of child rape and torture.
Hamas fighters arriving in a pickup truck at Jabalya refugee camp in Gaza City for the handover of hostage Agam Beger to the Red Cross, dated Jan. 30, 2025.
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Hamas fighters gather for a hostage handover in Gaza City on Jan. 30.
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The allegations, dated between 2012 and 2019, involve recruits to Hamas’ intelligence, military and interior ministry and say the new members were eventually deemed “unacceptable” to continue working with the terror group because of their actions.
“He constantly curses God,” according to one allegation, which added, “Information was received that he sexually harassed a young child.“
An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Brotherhood in North America
by Mohamed Akram
May 19, 1991
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Summary:
This May 1991 memo was written by Mohamed Akram, a.k.a. Mohamed Adlouni, for the Shura Council of the Muslim Brotherhood. In the introductory letter, Akram referenced a "long-term plan…approved and adopted" by the Shura Council in 1987 and proposed this memo as a supplement to that plan and requested that the memo be added to the agenda for an upcoming Council meeting. Appended to the document is a list of all Muslim Brotherhood organizations in North America as of 1991.
Notable quotes:
Enablement of Islam in North America, meaning: establishing an effective and stable Islamic Movement led by the Muslim Brotherhood which adopts Muslims' causes domestically and globally, and which works to expand the observant Muslim base, aims at unifying and directing Muslims' efforts, presents Islam as a civilization alternative, and supports the global Islamic state, wherever it is.
In order for Islam and its Movement to become "a part of the homeland" in which it lives, "stable" in its land, "rooted" in the spirits and minds of its people, "enabled" in the live [sic] of its society and has firmly-established "organizations" on which the Islamic structure is built and with which the testimony of civilization is achieved, the Movement must plan and struggle to obtain "the keys" and the tools of this process in carry [sic] out this grand mission as a "Civilization Jihadist" responsibility which lies on the shoulders of Muslims and – on top of them – the Muslim Brotherhood in this country.
The process of settlement is a "Civilization-Jihadist Proecess" with all the word means. The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions. Without this level of understanding, we are not up to this challenge and have not prepared ourselves for Jihad yet. It is a Muslim's destiny to perform Jihad and work wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes, and there is no escape from that destiny except for those who chose to slack. But, would the slackers and the Mujahedeen be equal.
Being that they are the biggest dicks, lacking bde
Perhaps not enough people have seen Trump's speech to the Arab world from 2017 demanding the civilize and leave their barbarian ways behind, hopefully the west-splainers and clingers to alternative pacifist realities can get on board and realize that no one has demanded they leave their barbarian ways behind yet, the closest was Jefferson in the first international American war against the Islamic barbary pirates
If anyone knows why this was not released until 2 weeks ago I would love insight
I want to point out, that for all the criticism Trump gets for his lack of a plan, it is as much of a plan as any recent calls for a "2 state solution".
Glad to see the head of at least one liberal is on straight…. and that’s no small thing, to be sure. But I think you’ll find that most who are inextricably wedded to Westplaining are simply shocked by any departure from the “two state solution/delusion” - which anyway has been rejected by the Arabs of Palestine at least 6 times over the past 80 years. Perhaps that’s because living peacefully in their own state next to a Jewish one is not truly what they want….
If I say good for you please do not be insulted…. It is meant sincerely. It is much harder to publicly support what you know is right, moral and true when surrounded by deluded ignorant do-gooders living in some alternate universe, than it is for us in our supportive right wing spaces in which everyone is pretty much on the same wavelength.
I could not read past the beginning of the article since it is paywalled, but it is obvious that you addressed this 100 year old delusion squarely, and that is most impressive.
The Trump/Bibi press conference was greatly entertaining. I enjoyed seeing Bibi smiling throughout while pro hamas folk wrung their hands and hung their heads, others shouting "From the River to the Sea," and liberals gasping for air and reaching for their albuterol. What I took out of the press conference was Trump's realization a two state solution is nonsense, Israel cannot enjoy peace and security with hamas on its borders, and Palestinians cannot enjoy peace and security so long as they buy into hamas' broken promises and the fiction that Israel will be Jew free, as if Jews haven't longed for if not lived in Israel going back 3500 years. All else is commentary.
The river to the sea outcome is clearly at the top of the Zionist agenda. And as Elise Stefanik has instructed us, any promotion of that outcome is genocidal.
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Taking a hard position right now serves what purpose? There is no two state Solution, there never has been. The "resolution" has never been about land or even another Palestinian state. This is a cultural and religious war on Jews an no amount of appeasement will settle anything.
I'm going to listen and see what happens with Trump's proposal, we've tried everything else and failed. Do you really think this will make it "worse?"
The photo is AI and Trump never intended to build a Gaza Riviera. It was to shake up the Arab neighbors to get off their asses and resolve the situation . They don’t want an American presence, Trump doesn’t want an American presence and nobody wants the Palestinians for very good reasons. So they can put up or shut up. And they’re putting up. 58b dollars and the manpower. Maybe they lock them in.
How could you have fallen for such an obviously ridiculous, over the top proposal? My husband and I were doubled over laughing. We picked up on it right away. This is typical Trump “ Art of the Deal”. Propose the most outlandish “ deal” and bargain down from there. If he had proposed what he was gunning for, they’d have turned it down. He got them to do exactly what he wanted and allowed them to think it was their idea.
Contrast with his plan for Ukraine: It will NOT involve American money or taxes. It will NOT involve American boots on the ground. It WILL involve permanent expulsion and displacement.
True, however it hasn’t seemed to make any impact or nean anything that Israel *hasn’t* been doing what it’s been relentlessly accused of; so not sure trump’s unhinged threats are costing, and clearly it’s having the effect of scaring hamas and arabic countries to start working with Israel more effectively, including freeing hostages.
Conversely, I don’t think the previous appeasement and kowtowing to the red-green alliance was doing anything but dooming Israel and jews around the world.
As we say: it’s a very narrow bridge. Hoping we can navigate it without falling into the abyss
It's important to remember that Trump is, first and foremost, a deal maker. He understands that in many cases, you have to ask for more than you want in order to get enough. I've seen analyses that point out how he has changed the narrative. For decades, the rule has been that the Palestinians attack to try to destroy Israel, and when they lose, the world forces Israel to make concessions "in the name of peace." The Palestinians never face any consequences.
This could change that, making the rest of the world - and especially the Arabs - realize that they cannot count on the same old process over and over again. They are now facing the reality that if they don't take the responsibility to come up with an alternative, they are not going to like what Trump will do. Soul-searching has never been their task, and now, suddenly, it may well be.
Hi Jill, I appreciate you have been working hard to stand up for Israel in a left wing crowd and this is a thankless task. Trumps ‘plan’ is really weird … but it does bring up some internal contradictions in the pro Hamas side
1) the propaganda states that the Gazans are truly refugees of the 4th generation from what is now Israel since 1948. They claim the people they murdered on October 7 were ‘settlers’. Gaza is a big refugee camp for these genetic refugees. If so, why can’t they be refugees in a nicer environment? Ismail Haniyeh and his 7 wives lived quite well in Doha until his fateful trip to Tehran.
Is it ‘imperialist’ to move these people out of the refugee camp?
Are they really Gazans or are they genetic refugees?
2) why is the border of Egypt always closed to them? Why won’t Arab countries take the people who would like to leave? Don’t other countries take refugees from a war zone? Why is it ethnic cleansing? Isn’t this a bit hypocritical? If there is no forced exodus then it’s no different than other groups leaving a war zone.
3). Why does the UN through UNWRA perpetuate the generational refugee status at all? (Related but not the same question)
All valid questions that I have not heard Trump personally address at any point.
Right these are my questions brought up by the reaction to his ideas. Not his questions.
Other things to consider: is it humanitarian to expect Gazans to live in tents for the next 15 years, during rebuilding? After WW2, Czechs refused to live next to ethnic Germans in Sudetenland after all the suffering Germany had caused. Those Germans were resettled in Germany and the land was given to the Czechs. Why should Israel be put in the same situation over and over? At some point the world should say “enough!” The Palestinians have had decades to do right by themselves and their neighbours and have proven intractably violent against Israel (of course not 100% - never is). Let alone that many Gazans are begging to get out and start over, free of Hamas. As far as Trump goes - even a broken clock is correct 2 times per day. I hope Gaza gets rebuilt - not as a Trump resort but as a purpose-built community for all, allowing screened Gazans to return if they wish, governed perhaps by an Abraham Accords Arab country.
I’ve several times disagreed with Jill on Substack, but I think she’s on the mark in some important ways in this thoughtful piece. Let me offer some input as a Gentile who has been involved with relief efforts in Palestine for 30+ years.
Any plan that assumes that the indigenous Palestinians (assuming living on a land for 1500+ uninterrupted years makes a people indigenous) will be ethnically cleansed from their land is an intellectually lazy non-starter. The Arabs aren’t going away. And, of course, the Jews in Israel certainly shouldn’t go away, nor, appropriately, will they.
We too often forget that Hashemite Jordan’s population is already composed of 30% Palestinian refugees. Israel should have no interest in doing anything to destabilize Egypt, which has an ongoing struggle with the extremist Muslim Brotherhood
The only thing that is more intellectually fraudulent is to assume that there have been any prospects for a two state solution since the death of Rabin. That egg has been broken and scrambled. Beyond this, Netanyahu has many times stated that he would never tolerate the creation of a sovereign Palestinian state.
Personally I pray for the Palestinians to somehow have to have the space to create credible representation for themselves, eliminating Hamas and finding something far better than the sclerotic PA to represent them. But it is very difficult for this progress to occur in a high pressure environment where Gaza has been leveled and over 500 West Bank Palestinians have been killed by settlers and the IDF in just the last 3-4 months while new illegal (even by Israeli government standards) West Bank settlements are created every week. Add Trump’s unhinged remarks that seem to imply that Gaza, under U.S. ownership, will assume a status equivalent to Guam and the volatility of the situation is intolerable.
It’s important to recall that Netanyahu, who is accurately described by Jill here, has often called Hamas “my conception” - something he facilitated as a way to undercut the PA. And, of course, Abbas has done a great job of undercutting the PA by himself.
There’s plenty of blame to go around but endless rumination on things that happened 75+ or 30+ years ago is useless. Israel and the Palestinians are where they are and what matters is a way forward where the rights of the members of both tribes are equitably recognized in a situation where two people share one land.
While the Palestinians need to vastly improve their self-governance, it is also incumbent on Israel to find a way to sideline disciples of the terrorist Meir Kahane and worshippers of the mass murderer Baruch Goldstein from political life. I’m specifically talking about people who have held very senior positions in Netanyahu’s cabinet such as Ben-Gvir and Smotrich, who are as guilty of tribal hate as Hamas leadership is, with the difference being that they have the capacity to progress terrorism with gigantic bombs with a 360 meter kill radius rather than with homemade rockets, RPGs, rifles and IEDs.
ALL terrorism is wrong. ALL.
Pray for peace and the safety of all in our Holy Land. I sadly know that I won’t be alive to witness it.
Your assumption is incorrect re indigeneity. French Canadians have been in Canada for 500 years. Does that make them indigenous? Armenians have had a community in Israel for nearly 1800 years yet nobody thinks they’re indigenous to Israel. Indigeneity is determined by ethnogenesis - where a culture is born. “Palestinian” Arab is a variant on Arab culture, which had its ethnogenesis in the Arabian peninsula. Jews are the only remaining people who are indigenous to Israel, besides being the only ”Palestinians” long before Arabs invaded in the 7th century.
I don’t think these Gazans should be forced to leave. But they certainly shouldn’t be prevented from leaving. It’s normal for people to leave war zones. Why no entry to other Arab countries? Why are those doors closed? Does that even make sense? Only because Palestinians are known to destabilize governments. Black September in Jordan years ago.
Also if they consider themselves 4th generation refugees from Ashkelon, does is even matter if they live in Qatar ? Or only because someone wants them to breach the Israeli border again.
I don’t think Donald Trump was ever seriously considering having the United States occupy Gaza. I think this was all a ploy to get Egypt and Jordan to accept Gazan refugees. But nonetheless you are correct Jill that it is highly unlikely this plan would’ve worked. It most likely never would’ve gotten the public or Congressional support needed to make it happen. As I understand it however, Gazan refugees being resettled in Egypt or Jordan would be voluntary. So it wouldn’t be ethnic cleansing. Nonetheless you’re right Jill that the situation at the moment is quite tense. The war for now is over, but Hamas remains in power and 76 innocent people including 2 babies remain held in Gaza captive. The war could restart at anytime. What is the answer for postwar Gaza? What vision do the people of Gaza have for its future? What is to be done about Hamas? These are all crucial questions that need to be answered and fast. Hamas definitely should not be the picture of the postwar governing of Gaza. To me the most realistic and best idea would be an occupation and administration by the Gulf States; Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Bahrain who are friendly with Israel but whom the Gazans would trust as fellow Arabs and Muslims. Israel would feel secure on its Southern border and they could take care of any remnants of Hamas still running around out there. To be sure Benjamin Netanyahu and the current governing coalition in Israel loved what Trump was advocating for. I’m glad Israel will have no part in the governing of Gaza in the future nor will IDF boots be on the ground. 1) That would easily trigger a Third Intifada. 2) I’d be worried that Bibi and his cronies would encourage Jewish settlers resettling Gaza. 3) Israel renounced all claims to Gaza when they pulled out in 2005. There’s no doubt he’s under fire in Israel right now with both the Israeli press and public and rightly so. He has been the worst PM in Israel’s by far and it’s not even close. I’d argue the man is a quasi-dictator. He, Likud and their far-right allies have ignored Israel’s democratic institutions, enacted authoritarian laws, allowed October 7th to happen by not properly reinforcing the Gaza border, and are a barrier to peace in the region between Israel and the Palestinians. I think it is crucial Bibi and his government be voted out of office or pressured by the public into resigning. If Netanyahu stays PM and his messianic and Kahanist government stay in power, Israel will become an authoritarian and theocratic state. Not to mention the blatant racism, Islamophobia and fanaticism of those like Ben-Gvir and Smotrich. With them in charge Israel’s non-Jewish minorities and Palestinians are in grave danger and could lose their rights.
What evidence do you have for him being the worst pm ever? Longevity of time in office and popularity amongst real Israelis as opposed to retarded leftist deep staters is remarkable
Palestine isn't a country, it's a region. The people there claim to be refugees and want to return to Israel. And then there is the state of the land which we have been told is unlivable, an open prison, close to famine and all the other deathly buzzwords. If we to take all the above as true, then relocating the Gazans is the only morally correct course of action.
Maybe, but to where? And how? And on whose dollar? We can pontificate all we want about what's "moral," but nothing can be done with no real action. And if you're going to announce a bombastic "plan" like Trump just did, it must be backed up by real actionable steps.
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Ireland seems desirous and a delicious substack was written yesterday about interactions between the two countries involving navies and population transfers that was delicious
20 million Europeans were moved after the war, after the war the rules were removed allowing normal peacemaking processes unfortunately and Trump is addressing that by calling out the Islamic Nations for hanging the phallus by a rope as a tool for 70 years, denying them citizenship within the countries they did go to after being asked to go to those countries by the same Arab entities in 1948 when those same Arab entities announced to the world that they were going to kill all Jews and soak the land with those same Jews blood
That idea sank into me from my earliest years, I'm 59 and saw no room for tolerance of the intolerable and they are the epitome of the intolerable, it baffles me to see mental ministrations and masturbations regarding the implications of if the Arabs have to move when we've only had hourly reminders since the day of our birth where they want us to move.
We all recall when our approach to apartheid South Africa was to say that there were many other black dominated countries in Africa for blacks in South Africa to be driven off to, while there was only one sub-Saharan African country to be “the White state”. I wonder why the U.S. never led the effort to ethnically cleanse South Africa of blacks or, at least, ensure that blacks in South Africa could only live entrapped in Bantustans that they could not leave?
I suppose where South Africa’s white government fell short was by failing to almost completely destroy black townships by dropping massive bombs and launching endless artillery shells at them, all in the interest of eliminating the ANC terrorists residing in those townships.
Then the white apartheid government and the US could have justified ethnically cleansing all blacks from South Africa since their townships were in terrible shape.
The old humanitarian gambit.
Finally your church is being held accountable for its wayward malevolency and crime against humanity
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Secret Hamas docs reveal torture, execution of gay terrorists — while some male Oct. 7 Israeli victims were raped in captivity
By Caitlin Doornbos
Published Feb. 4, 2025, 4:56 p.m. ET
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Hamas tortured and executed terrorists within its ranks who allegedly had gay sex, shocking documents show — as sources added some male Israeli victims of the Oct. 7 massacre were raped in captivity.
The Iranian proxy terror group had a running list of recruits who were found to have failed Hamas’ “morality checks” by having same-sex relations — and they paid a heavy price, according to documents recovered by the Israel Defense Forces and shared with The Post.
The documents reveal the “crimes” that were allegedly committed by 94 Hamas recruits — lumping “homosexual conversations,” “flirting with girls without a legal relationship” and “sodomy” in with serious allegations of child rape and torture.
Hamas fighters arriving in a pickup truck at Jabalya refugee camp in Gaza City for the handover of hostage Agam Beger to the Red Cross, dated Jan. 30, 2025.
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Hamas fighters gather for a hostage handover in Gaza City on Jan. 30.
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The allegations, dated between 2012 and 2019, involve recruits to Hamas’ intelligence, military and interior ministry and say the new members were eventually deemed “unacceptable” to continue working with the terror group because of their actions.
“He constantly curses God,” according to one allegation, which added, “Information was received that he sexually harassed a young child.“
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An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Brotherhood in North America
by Mohamed Akram
May 19, 1991
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Summary:
This May 1991 memo was written by Mohamed Akram, a.k.a. Mohamed Adlouni, for the Shura Council of the Muslim Brotherhood. In the introductory letter, Akram referenced a "long-term plan…approved and adopted" by the Shura Council in 1987 and proposed this memo as a supplement to that plan and requested that the memo be added to the agenda for an upcoming Council meeting. Appended to the document is a list of all Muslim Brotherhood organizations in North America as of 1991.
Notable quotes:
Enablement of Islam in North America, meaning: establishing an effective and stable Islamic Movement led by the Muslim Brotherhood which adopts Muslims' causes domestically and globally, and which works to expand the observant Muslim base, aims at unifying and directing Muslims' efforts, presents Islam as a civilization alternative, and supports the global Islamic state, wherever it is.
In order for Islam and its Movement to become "a part of the homeland" in which it lives, "stable" in its land, "rooted" in the spirits and minds of its people, "enabled" in the live [sic] of its society and has firmly-established "organizations" on which the Islamic structure is built and with which the testimony of civilization is achieved, the Movement must plan and struggle to obtain "the keys" and the tools of this process in carry [sic] out this grand mission as a "Civilization Jihadist" responsibility which lies on the shoulders of Muslims and – on top of them – the Muslim Brotherhood in this country.
The process of settlement is a "Civilization-Jihadist Proecess" with all the word means. The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions. Without this level of understanding, we are not up to this challenge and have not prepared ourselves for Jihad yet. It is a Muslim's destiny to perform Jihad and work wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes, and there is no escape from that destiny except for those who chose to slack. But, would the slackers and the Mujahedeen be equal.
Who are you replying to?
South Africa was certainly healthier before black rule but what that's got to do with what I'm talking about is in your head and not clear in my head
Phallustinians it should read
Being that they are the biggest dicks, lacking bde
Perhaps not enough people have seen Trump's speech to the Arab world from 2017 demanding the civilize and leave their barbarian ways behind, hopefully the west-splainers and clingers to alternative pacifist realities can get on board and realize that no one has demanded they leave their barbarian ways behind yet, the closest was Jefferson in the first international American war against the Islamic barbary pirates
If anyone knows why this was not released until 2 weeks ago I would love insight
https://youtu.be/6R70LdNQkvw?si=bRU6w9-zcSgdWBEE
I want to point out, that for all the criticism Trump gets for his lack of a plan, it is as much of a plan as any recent calls for a "2 state solution".
You'll notice I didn't mention "two state solution" at any point in this article because I find discussion about that pointless.
Glad to see the head of at least one liberal is on straight…. and that’s no small thing, to be sure. But I think you’ll find that most who are inextricably wedded to Westplaining are simply shocked by any departure from the “two state solution/delusion” - which anyway has been rejected by the Arabs of Palestine at least 6 times over the past 80 years. Perhaps that’s because living peacefully in their own state next to a Jewish one is not truly what they want….
I've already written extensively on this: https://theliberaljew.substack.com/p/the-two-state-solution-dog-whistle
If I say good for you please do not be insulted…. It is meant sincerely. It is much harder to publicly support what you know is right, moral and true when surrounded by deluded ignorant do-gooders living in some alternate universe, than it is for us in our supportive right wing spaces in which everyone is pretty much on the same wavelength.
I could not read past the beginning of the article since it is paywalled, but it is obvious that you addressed this 100 year old delusion squarely, and that is most impressive.
Bingo. The 2 state solution died with Rabin.
The Trump/Bibi press conference was greatly entertaining. I enjoyed seeing Bibi smiling throughout while pro hamas folk wrung their hands and hung their heads, others shouting "From the River to the Sea," and liberals gasping for air and reaching for their albuterol. What I took out of the press conference was Trump's realization a two state solution is nonsense, Israel cannot enjoy peace and security with hamas on its borders, and Palestinians cannot enjoy peace and security so long as they buy into hamas' broken promises and the fiction that Israel will be Jew free, as if Jews haven't longed for if not lived in Israel going back 3500 years. All else is commentary.
The river to the sea outcome is clearly at the top of the Zionist agenda. And as Elise Stefanik has instructed us, any promotion of that outcome is genocidal.
I don’t have an answer, but I do think eves words on this are useful https://evebarlow.substack.com/p/the-song-remains-the-same?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email#media-7c196381-1fcf-4123-95ac-75e76d3348e4
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Taking a hard position right now serves what purpose? There is no two state Solution, there never has been. The "resolution" has never been about land or even another Palestinian state. This is a cultural and religious war on Jews an no amount of appeasement will settle anything.
I'm going to listen and see what happens with Trump's proposal, we've tried everything else and failed. Do you really think this will make it "worse?"
Yes.
After October 7th, how?
The photo is AI and Trump never intended to build a Gaza Riviera. It was to shake up the Arab neighbors to get off their asses and resolve the situation . They don’t want an American presence, Trump doesn’t want an American presence and nobody wants the Palestinians for very good reasons. So they can put up or shut up. And they’re putting up. 58b dollars and the manpower. Maybe they lock them in.
How could you have fallen for such an obviously ridiculous, over the top proposal? My husband and I were doubled over laughing. We picked up on it right away. This is typical Trump “ Art of the Deal”. Propose the most outlandish “ deal” and bargain down from there. If he had proposed what he was gunning for, they’d have turned it down. He got them to do exactly what he wanted and allowed them to think it was their idea.
Contrast with his plan for Ukraine: It will NOT involve American money or taxes. It will NOT involve American boots on the ground. It WILL involve permanent expulsion and displacement.
True, however it hasn’t seemed to make any impact or nean anything that Israel *hasn’t* been doing what it’s been relentlessly accused of; so not sure trump’s unhinged threats are costing, and clearly it’s having the effect of scaring hamas and arabic countries to start working with Israel more effectively, including freeing hostages.
Conversely, I don’t think the previous appeasement and kowtowing to the red-green alliance was doing anything but dooming Israel and jews around the world.
As we say: it’s a very narrow bridge. Hoping we can navigate it without falling into the abyss
A useful read.
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/the-settler-plot-to-recolonize-gaza/
Trump is merely challenging the failed conventional wisdom and using leverage
It's important to remember that Trump is, first and foremost, a deal maker. He understands that in many cases, you have to ask for more than you want in order to get enough. I've seen analyses that point out how he has changed the narrative. For decades, the rule has been that the Palestinians attack to try to destroy Israel, and when they lose, the world forces Israel to make concessions "in the name of peace." The Palestinians never face any consequences.
This could change that, making the rest of the world - and especially the Arabs - realize that they cannot count on the same old process over and over again. They are now facing the reality that if they don't take the responsibility to come up with an alternative, they are not going to like what Trump will do. Soul-searching has never been their task, and now, suddenly, it may well be.
Here’s a great podcast to listen to if you wanna put your mind at ease:
https://pca.st/episode/9d47c900-c783-4bd3-b45a-74294b9c24ae